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Monday, 02 May 2005

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Keith Ng

Work on a follow-up piece (which includes most of the points you mentioned) started the moment the first one went to the printers. That Mallard was in Saudi Arabia and out of phone contact didn't help - I only had one "window" to ask him questions. And now that he has returned, his schedule is very full, and, after reading my piece, his minders are not sure if he'll be available to talk to me. Nevermind - a follow-up is coming, anyway.

Coming, next week, to a student magazine near you. (And then going on Poll Dancer.)

Keith Ng

I feel compelled to point out the bottom-line, though, which is that Labour promised that more students would receive allowances in their second term and that there will be another 28,000 student allowances this year.

Instead of 28,000 up, it's 3,000 down, and instead of more students getting allowance in Labour's second term, less students have received an allowance during each successive year of Labour's second term.

Regardless of Mallard's justifications, the bottom-line is that Labour has broken a campaign promise to students.

Chris

I fail to see how Mallard can be blamed for less students taking up allowances than they are entitled to. It's the student's fault, not the government's.

Graham watson

The reason less students are ineligible is directly related to the Labour introduced policy linking the allowance to parental income. This applies until the age of 25, and is clearly inequitable.

Why should the level of support a young adult gets bear any relationship to the income status of their parents?

At what age are adults considered to be independent?

Answer those questions Mallard, or Jordan who seems to be acting as an apologist for him. Good on Keith Ng.

Graham watson

Oops, should read above 'eligible', not 'ineligible'.

GeniusNZ

Indeed - get rid of means testing onstudent loans.
besides it results in ridiculously high marginal tax rates

Jordan

There is no means testing on student loans.

I agree that the fact that allowance numbers are down not up is embarrassing, which is why I would like to see movement on a range of fronts to ensure more people do get them. Unfortunately, I don't write the government's education policy ;)

Graham watson

In 1999 Labour asked for the student vote and has since sold them out. Average fees have increased significantly since 1999 and student debt has more than doubled. Less people are eligible for the student allowance and the means test is ridiculous. Govt support (loans or allowances) has failed to keep pace with rising costs; food, transport, rent (esp in Akld). These are cold hard facts, if you don't dispute them I assume you agree.

Lets face it Jordan, students had a better deal in the late 90's under National when you were a student, than they do now. It may be hard for a partisan to accept but it is blunt reality.

And you were one of those who campaigned on the basis students would be better off by voting Labour. How many students left University to make a career on welfare, become a bureaucrat, or a maori broadcaster?

You may have been rewarded with a cosy job as a secretary to an MP, but thousands, no, tens of thousands of others have suffered as a result of your advice. How do you propose to atone for misleading your peers?

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