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Bryce Edwards

Jordan - there's some very important issues raised by your thoughtful post. In my view, this is a crucial debate and discussion for the left to have. And I plan to write a lot more about it myself. Having just read Denis Welch's bio of Helen Clark, I'd point out that this book also deals with these questions in depth in explaining the rise of Clark and the history of the Fourth Labour Government. Well worth reading, and I'm about to do a series of blog posts on Welch's book.

I totally agree with the need to understand the interplay between leftism and social liberalism. But, I'd also make the plea that we need to unpack this term "social liberalism" at some stage. We tend to lump in a whole lot of issues and concepts into this amorphos analytical term, and perhaps this make things murkier rather than clarifying anything.

In terms of the Walter Benn Michaels article - which I also liked - I'd also highlight his excellent book, "The Trouble with Diversity: How We Learned to Love Identity and Ignore Inequality". I blogged briefly about this sometime ago at:
http://liberation.typepad.com/liberation/2007/02/the_trouble_wit.html

Bryce

Henry C.

Jordan, enjoyed your entry a lot! There're insights which I hope politicians and people in Hong Kong could understand, though I don't necessarily agree with a socialist economy outlook.

I see eye to eye with Bryce, that we need to unpack conceptions around the discussion. I had five years of philosophical training in university but I still found it extremely difficult to follow some discussions in political science and economics simply because of the jargons.

Phil Sage (sagenz)

The perfect riposte to this post is Chris Trotter and the dance.

You may excuse the loss as clever campaigning, but that is to patronise Waitakere man as being too stupid to make an informed decision, which is a big part of Labour's problem in the first place

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