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Anonymous

Thanks for removing my comment, truth hurts doesn't it? I'll post it again.

If you vote for a bill, you vote for it in its entirety. Its flaws, democratic failures, etc. Seems to me that Labour was just as interested as National in pushing this law through as fast as possible.

gg Labour. I'm voting Green.

Jordan Carter

I didn't delete anything, you must have failed to put it in properly. I don't think that there was a democratic failure: all the stages other than third reading were done via normal parliamentary process. The fact the third reading debate happened in urgency doesn't make any difference to the outcome or the time spent considering the bill.

I also don't agree with your point that you vote for it in its entirety. That's the same as saying someone who votes for or joins a political party agrees with every single thing it says or does. Such an attitude is simplistic and simply wrong.

Jonathan

The legislation is still deeply flawed and I'm disgusted Labour voted it in. If National had passed it under urgency with termination intact then they alone would have had to face the inevitable public backlash. As things stand, termination is still a possibility, and is quite likely to be brought in because the fundamental issue is one of market failure (i.e. I wager a significant amount of the material that is infringing is unavailable in NZ).

The law is already having chilling effects. I've heard from a holiday home owner dropping their broadband to avoid liability. The last thing this county needs is anything that inhibits widespread, fast internet. This law does that and the potential effects on free WIFI are of great concern to me. Labour can talk about u-turns as much as it wants - what matters is action, not talk, and Labour's track record is (a) introducing s92A, (b) re-inserting it after a select committee recommended against it, and (c) voting for termination "lite" with National.

Martin

As a host of international students, I will have to go to great lengths to ensure that they don't use our Internet connection for downloading copyrighted material. Other hosting families may not be as tech savvy as me and will fall foul of this law. Be a man, do the right thing and push a bill to kick this out, instead of telling everyone it was someone else who voted this in. Guilty only when proven guilty, not by accusation only.

Cameron

In my opinion, Labour would've made a more principled stand by voting against it. It would've allowed more leverage, both politically and demonstrably, to say "Hey, we don't like this either!"

Until the termination clause is activated, there is little in the changes that the public will care about. I believe it would be better for someone to actually have their internet terminated to show how unjust this legislation is.

Why not let National show how modern they are by allowing them to shoot themselves in the foot properly, rather than helping them by replacing the shotgun for a 22?

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