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Sadesh

I also think the party needs to get rid of the old faces such as Ruth Dyson and even Trevor Mallard. They have been around too long and people want to see fresh faces with fresh ideas. With all due respect, Mallard and co. come across as too negative and this puts people off. Labour has to also stop the personal attacks and stick to debating the issues that matter the most.

Stephen Judd

Interesting. I hope this series will encompass learning from the Greens too. I think part of their success in this cycle is that their processes are comparatively transparent and their members and supporters are much more engaged.

Jim

Do you think Labour can do it?

I've never voted Labour although they are a lot closer to me on the left/right scale.

My first vote was cast in 1987 while I was a university student - and I voted against the incumbents - the fourth Labour govt. In 1990 I voted against the govt again.

Shortly after that I had a job. I was working alongside unionists. As a fresh and keen graduate I could not understand why my colleagues would spit the dummy at things that seemed totally innocuous to me.

Our boss (the nice guy that hired me) was Satan and not to be spoken to. I was asked why I was doing things that he requested - as if that was the wrong approach. Serious WTF moment.

If I was fixing something important and morning teatime arrived then I was supposed to drop tools and dunk krispies into tea for a while - never mind if that caused cascade failures elsewhere. And there, in the tearoom, the not-so-subtle indoctrination started.

Unfortunately it all seemed totally illogical and unproductive to me (nothing to do with fairness) and that has pushed me away ever since. I wanted (and pretended) to like those guys but their work ethic never made sense. The automatic opposition of everything was rather tiresome.

And that flipped my vote. I never went to Labour. I feel that I haven't yet seen a true Labour in NZ.

I'm not against the principal of unions and collective bargaining - but my experience has put me off the 'whinging' faction that seems to dominate. Oppose everything seems to be the mantra.

I'd need to see that gone before my vote ever went that way.

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