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Mxharris

Hey Jordan, really good read. Great to hear some rhetoric. I think we all need to think big once in a while!

I guess my only slight reservation is: does crying "equality" really help us in the struggles where we are talking about whether a deviation from equal treatment is justified? Many of the major struggles of our time - gay marriage, prisons, animal rights - are about whether there is good reason to treat some groups/individuals/beings differently. And in some cases it is justified to treat people differently (e.g. sending people to jail for very serious crimes). We need to work out how we argue against those "good reasons" for treating people differently.

Using the rallying cry of equality will often be useful in establishing a powerful starting point (that we will only treat people differently in rare situations) and in underscoring our priorities as a community. However, it's not quite the conversation-stopping answer to these debates, is it? It might nudge us all closer to the "equality" end of the spectrum. But it's not an argument-winner, right?

That doesn't take away from what you're saying, which is that equality is an important principle and value. Maybe, though, we still need something more - a new set of values (?) - to win the big arguments of our time.

Jordan Carter

Hi Max, thanks for the comment. I've never thought that equality is the sole answer to problems or even always the right one. The trinity I cite in the title of this blog between them get it about right, I would contend.

I don't think the language around equality per se is particularly a winner, but I am interested in thinking through different ways to talk about the ideal it represents. The language has been poisoned by a sustained assault over forty years, but the understanding of its relationship to human dignity and growth that lies behind it has not.

Generally the "good reasons for treating people differently" tend towards being about equity (aimed at a substantive equality in any case), or based on the choices and behaviours they make or exhibit. Equality exists in a moral dimension that is not absolute.

For winning the issues of our time, the big three of social democracy plust kawanatanga seem to me to be a pretty good fit...

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